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Post by Visitor on Sept 9, 2008 12:44:20 GMT -5
Correct did not count first lap for car1
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Post by seayya on Sept 9, 2008 13:09:58 GMT -5
To me it looks like Matt had a lap added and Benny had one taken away. TO ME if that is the case then if you took the lap away from Matt then Benny would have won the race. I do not know what FOR SURE happened to the results, but it does appear that a mistake was done. I do not operate that system so I do not know for sure what can be done to alter changes. If it did not count his (Matt's) first lap then I wonder why that happened? ? Delay in computer or something? SIGN IN!!!!!!
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Big "D"
shooter
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Post by Big "D" on Sept 9, 2008 13:32:00 GMT -5
If you give Matt the lap he missed at the start and take away the lap where Benny was taken to pit road to restart then the laps at the top are correct. Matt 50 Benny 49.
Maybe we need to go back to the good ol days of pen and pad. Race, Lap count and then turn marshal. We never had these problems.
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Post by Benny Smith on Sept 9, 2008 14:06:32 GMT -5
Hey guys its ok, the main thing is I had fun.
Thanks Benny
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Post by ilikef150s on Sept 9, 2008 14:50:39 GMT -5
Got it!
Question: If a car flames out, where should it be re-started and re-enter the track if not from pit road? That seems to be the rule at most of the tracks I've run at.
Where's the loop? Before or after pit lane?
Thanks!
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Big "D"
shooter
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Post by Big "D" on Sept 9, 2008 16:00:24 GMT -5
It counted the lap as it was taken to pit road. That is why lap 25 was so fast. You can see that Benny did not have a long lap for pitting for 23 or 24 laps. Pitting was required every 12-13 laps.
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Post by imjammin on Sept 9, 2008 16:35:23 GMT -5
Got it! Question: If a car flames out, where should it be re-started and re-enter the track if not from pit road? That seems to be the rule at most of the tracks I've run at. Where's the loop? Before or after pit lane? Thanks! it is restarted from pit lane and exits pit lane the loop is just before pit lane and that is why there is always a problem the loop is suppose to be moved to solve this problem the question to be answered is why was matts 1st lap was not counted
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Big "D"
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Post by Big "D" on Sept 9, 2008 16:53:47 GMT -5
Minimum lap time set to high! Also a problem from before. Should be around 10 seconds. We also need a fence down the front stretch to keep cars from jumping onto the front stretch and crossing the line.
Loop closer to the beginning of the straight.
JUST SUGGESTIONS!
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Post by seayya on Sept 9, 2008 17:02:44 GMT -5
Loop will be getting moved. Paul was talking about that about 2 weeks ago. Just haven't had time yet. Not enough workers. ;D Right Paul? ;D
The minimum is usually set about 5 seconds faster than the fastest lap at that time, and looked at as the day progresses just in case the lap times are getting faster. That way it SHOULD prevent a driver from getting an extra lap if he jumps on to the straight away where the loop is.
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Post by mattperry on Sept 9, 2008 17:26:32 GMT -5
the minimum lap time is manually set at 16 seconds in the computer. at the start of the race if a car gets to the loop before 16 seconds the computer see's it as a fault lap and does not count it. it has several times this summer go back pick any sheet for the mains and you'll see what i'm referring to.
according to IFMAR AND ROAR if a car is restarted on pit road due to flame out and or breakage, it is to be returned to its last know position to complete that lap. so if benny flamed on the back straight thats where the car should have been placed after restarting. i was told he flamed his pit man restarted him then took the car behind the loop so he wouldn't loose a lap. I.E. cutting the course.
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Post by imjammin on Sept 9, 2008 17:34:35 GMT -5
the minimum lap time is manually set at 16 seconds in the computer. at the start of the race if a car gets to the loop before 16 seconds the computer see's it as a fault lap and does not count it. it has several times this summer go back pick any sheet for the mains and you'll see what i'm referring to. according to IFMAR AND ROAR if a car is restarted on pit road due to flame out and or breakage, it is to be returned to its last know position to complete that lap. so if benny flamed on the back straight thats where the car should have been placed after restarting. i was told he flamed his pit man restarted him then took the car behind the loop so he wouldn't loose a lap. I.E. cutting the course. so what you are saying your pit man should be running you all over the track to put you back where you flamed out i dont think so all of this has done been covered and you shouldnt be the one preaching about cutting the course
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Post by imjammin on Sept 9, 2008 17:58:36 GMT -5
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Post by Benny Smith on Sept 9, 2008 18:00:04 GMT -5
My car ran out of fuel going up the pit lane ramp, Jeff left my starter box on the table right before pit lane which is behind the loop, so when he fired my car back up, he put me back on the track where you enter pit lane, he walked across the loop period, he nor I knew this at that time. I did not cut the track , he put me back where I ran out of fuel so who ever told you I flamed out on the back straight lied. What I did not understand was the first lap time you had & then Phil explained it about how the computer can skip the first lap, so then I understood what went wrong. Its ok, but I did not cut the track period. Jeff did not resart my car in pit lane, my starter box was on the table by the fence at pit lane entrance. Thanks Benny
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Post by mattperry on Sept 9, 2008 19:41:44 GMT -5
no prob here benny, just relaying what i was told. dont know if it was true or not didn't see for myself as i was alittle busy trying to stay focused with the other distractions going on. it was good racin' you at the end,clean as usual. thanks i'll see you and zo1 @ prattville.
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Post by Big "D" on Sept 9, 2008 19:43:28 GMT -5
Keith, If they set the minimum lap time 5 seconds slower than the fastest lap it will never count the first lap if we start on the back stretch. I have some fence if we could put it up on the inside of the front stretch along side the jumps then cars can't jump onto the front stretch.
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